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JIM CARREY AWAKENS AND INTRODUCES ECKHART TOLLE

Postby BINNOY » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:41 pm

HEY, For those who haven't seen this video, follow the links on you tube.

JIM CARREY ON AWAKENING
http://binnoy.hpage.com/jim_carrey_awak ... 08279.html

JIM CARREY INTRODUCES ECKHART TOLLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeuoC6Gm ... re=related

JIM CARREY SPEAKS ON "THE NEW EARTH" ON OPRAH SHOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tqoWwID ... re=related


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Re: JIM CARREY AWAKENS AND INTRODUCES ECKHART TOLLE

Postby Pete » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:36 pm

And your point is...?
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Postby BINNOY » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:59 pm

Pete wrote:And your point is...?

just chill and enjoy the video :D

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Re: JIM CARREY AWAKENS AND INTRODUCES ECKHART TOLLE

Postby Pete » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:18 pm

Hello; I'm glad you're still here! When I saw your post with a list of links, I did wonder if it was just a way of advertising the YouTube videos and your website.

I am curious to know what you got out of the videos, though. I woke up yesterday morning in spite of the fact that I hadn't seen the awakening video. This morning, having seen the video, I also woke up. No noticeable change. :lol:
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Postby BINNOY » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:42 pm

I woke up yesterday morning in spite of the fact that I hadn't seen the awakening video. This morning, having seen the video, I also woke up. No noticeable change. :lol:[/quote]

The waking up that JIM carrey had was very different. He came across that awakening when he asked himself who is the one who is watching the thinker. This waking up is very different from the normal waking up. Such an awakening happens when consciousness i.e ones awareness which is usually consumed in thinking and such other activities withdraws temporarily and realizes its own sources. In such an experience, a strange amount of oneness is felt to everyone and everything..even inanimate objects seem one with the SELF.

I remember the time i had a similar experience.

I still remember that day. I was completely frustuated with life and was at the church. Previously whenever I used to go the church i used to carry a huge manifesto of what i wanted from GOD. However nothing ever clicked as per my prayers.

I did not know what kept me moving towards the Church every time i was frustuated ( I am a HINDU by BIRTH). If not anything else, it was just like a paradise for me to remain with my feelings.

But this day was different, there was an instintive feeling that whatever i thought was right for me was not so. It only seemed to be so. My level of frustuation reached such a level that my mind completely stopped working.

I then felt as if some strings that I was bounded to broke off and I fell deeper within a silent zone within myself. A SILENT VOICE WHISPERED from within me said very clearly as I was in front of the statue of Mother MARY ,"Now YOU decide whats right for me".

I still donot know from where I got those words. It was as if some-one elses. As these words came out, there was a sudden feeling of lightness and oneness with everything. I was experiencing bliss in the mids of a stormy situation of my life. Everything seemed to merge into one. There were just a few trees here and there since i live in the heart of a suburb, however their beauty was amazing. I couldnt justify why i was feeling that way I was.

I felt as if I was that pigeon on the roof and the people on that street, the noise of the cars, the silence that surrounded that noise and everything that I could see and hear. I was seeing things around me as if I was seeing it for the first time in life as I walked my way back home.

My conscious mind advocated against this feeling and feared that if I kept feeling this bliss I will never work hard enough to come out of this situation. It was at that time that the voice spoke once again. "All will be well. You are taken care of".



Though this was weird to my conscious mind, deep within, I was experiencing bliss. I never shared this experience before people for they would surely think i was going nuts. I had never come across any spiritual book at that time. It was just two days later that i got THE SECRET suprisingly in my hand as a gift from my aunt. Later life gave me the right books, the right internet site, the right articles and so on......



The POWER OF NOW though was the book that touched me deeply and solved every doubt I had. Coincidentally, and to my surprise 'ECKHART TOLLE' ,the author of the POWER OF NOW also had a somewhat similar experience to myne.

Two years after that day, my life has completely changed. Today as if I die to every past day with the past just as a story leaving no impression behind. I was motivated to form a website. My logical thinking perhaps wanted to name it as the MIRROR OF LIFE. However the name 'WHISPERS FROM SILENCE' kept coming in front of me until and unless I had to name it so.



Almost everyday initially, i would try to convince myself to change its name to a relatively simpler and understandable name for my visitors. However something within kept saying it would not be proper. "Whispers from silence" is the name it is destined to be. Its as if tribute to that WHISPER that changed my life. My logical conscious thinking and even some of my visitors cant find any logic to this name. But then perhaps where the world of rational thinking collapses, the world of love and gratitude dawns.

Well its not necessary that everyone feels the same resonance to this post of myne. If you feel this post is not meant for you...or that you dont need such an experience for yourself....its quite ok. You may enjoy your life as it is now. Nothing wrong with it.
Life is so immensely beautiful as it is.

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Re: JIM CARREY AWAKENS AND INTRODUCES ECKHART TOLLE

Postby Pete » Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:45 pm

Hi Binnoy,

Of course I know he's not talking about waking up in the usual sense. :lol:

He actually seems to be describing something like the Brahma Kumaris (I saw your comment in that thread). He is arguing against thought. Who knows, he might even be right to argue against thought. But without thought, I have no way of evaluating his claims. He would probably like me to say, "Yes you've convinced me, I agree." In fact all I can say is, "I got half way through your argument, then I decided I should stop thinking, so now I dunno."

Similarly, if Carrey is being consistent, he should not be asking himself who is watching the thinker. Asking himself that question requires thought.

The POWER OF NOW though was the book that touched me deeply and solved every doubt I had.

If you have no doubts and no questions then you are either at the beginning of your journey, or the end of your journey.

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Postby BINNOY » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:00 pm

WELL LETS See...thinking is the cause of all our sufferings. Its is not thoughts though i agree but the attachment to thoughts that creates all the problem. Its unfair to compare Eckhart Tolle with the Bramhakumaris who are so idealistic. When i said that the POWER OF NOW solved all my doubts...it concerned all my doubts about the cause of my suffering.....what was the roots of it and so on. I ofcourse I may still encounter doubts as to which job to take in the future...which furniture to select and so on.I dont think any book in this world can help one solve all the doubts of life..right?

When Jim Carrey asked himself who is the one who is watching the thought...his consciousness freed himself from thought...and experienced itself. This feeling is not a thought...but a realization of ones true nature when consciousness is no longer caught up in thinking. Just as Love is not a thought but a realization...this awakening is not a thought...cannot be very well described in words.IF you happen to ask youself WHAT IS LOVE...may be it requires thought...but THE FEELING OF LOVE....is that too a thought.No right? Love is more than a thought, its a realization...a feeling-knowing.The same way Jims and my experience was a realization...a feeling knowing.Even my describtion of awakening is a poor translation of what truly happened because i communicate to you and words are poor translators for such experiences.However i still maintain....if you have not come across such a thing..and these things sound funny or mytical to you...there is absolutely no reason to burden yourself with it. Enjoy your life as it is. Embrace it as it is. Perhaps you seem to sense no resonance with it...however for us its a realization.
Also...i cant say i am at the beginning or at the end of a journey...i have come a long way..and i have a long way still to go.The power of now acted just as a very good map and help me gain insights to the roots of my sufferings

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Re: JIM CARREY AWAKENS AND INTRODUCES ECKHART TOLLE

Postby Pete » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:59 pm

Hi Binnoy,

Its is not thoughts though i agree but the attachment to thoughts that creates all the problem.

What do you mean by attachment to thoughts? If I go to all the trouble of having a thought, I want to get all the mileage out of it that I can. :lol: That might mean that my thought causes me to change the way I'm living my life. Is that 'attachment' or do you mean something else?

To be fair, I can agree with the Buddhist view that you should avoid wasting time on regrets about the past or worries about the future. That kind of thought is unhelpful because you can't change the past, and worrying won't change the future (although other things might).

When Jim Carrey asked himself who is the one who is watching the thought...his consciousness freed himself from thought...and experienced itself. This feeling is not a thought...but a realization of ones true nature when consciousness is no longer caught up in thinking.

Yes, I can perceive (or think about) myself thinking. The brain works on many levels. That's an interesting fact, but I don't see how it's any more than that. Why should my life be happier because I've realised that?

However i still maintain....if you have not come across such a thing..and these things sound funny or mytical to you...there is absolutely no reason to burden yourself with it. Enjoy your life as it is. Embrace it as it is. Perhaps you seem to sense no resonance with it...however for us its a realization.

I have to say that I'm not seeing a reason to burden myself with it at the moment. :D There is something that worries me about things like the Power of Now. I think some people (not necessarily you) read them and get excited because they think they've found the answer to everything. Unfortunately, after a while, it all blows over and they're back to where they started. If they're lucky, they're just disappointed. If they're unlucky, they will have given significant money to someone who promises an easy path to happiness, but actually just empties your wallet.

I do think there is such a thing as spiritual growth, but it's really really hard. The times when I've 'grown' have been times when I've gone through tough experiences, survived, and come out the other side.

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Postby BINNOY » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:25 pm

I can reply to your questions...but honestly it would take a very long post. I would have to start with "that you are not just your brain" and that the brain is just like a cockpit in an aeroplane..you being the driver. Yes when it comes to the POWER OF NOW...not everybody may agree or resonate with it. I got it when i asked answers from life. And since i was in a state to receive i answers..i could grasp it very well. However others who are not in that state of mind may not feel that resonance.However it is good to see a bit of curiosity and questioning from your part.

If you are truly interested in knowing about spiritual growth and awakening and want to meet or converse with people who have had similar experiences...you may visit the following link

http://www.youaretrulyloved.com

What is spiritual growth, how simple and accessible it is, what are thoughts, what does one mean by attachments to thoughts and so on....this site attempts to answer
all questions in a very simple and a very down-to-earth format.

What is spiritual growth is absolutely not that difficult and not necessarily happens through tough times....though tough times may trigger at times to a person towards such a growth. I myself have undergone rapid spiritual growth in the past two years and it is an experience that i am still going through.

The site that i gave the link above involves many other visitors too who have gone through similar experiences. However to understand this entire thing may require a highly open mind. Lets see how it works out for you

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Postby Pete » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:38 pm

Hi Binnoy,

I would have to start with "that you are not just your brain" and that the brain is just like a cockpit in an aeroplane..you being the driver.

I assume you mean that the physical brain is the 'cockpit' and a non-physical soul is the 'pilot'. That philosophical view is called dualism, and while many people have believed in it, I'm not aware of any evidence supporting it. It's probably fair to say that we can't disprove dualism, either, but we've looked pretty closely at the brain and we haven't found any structures that receive instructions from something non-physical.

It's possible I misunderstood what you meant, so rather than talking about your views in particular, let's talk more generally. Many people have talked to me about spiritual growth, and they often make dogmatic statements which are not supported by evidence. It seems to me that growth involves (among other things) seeing the world as it really is. That means avoiding dogma, and instead trying to understand the world based on evidence. Sometimes the evidence will allow us to be fairly sure of something, and sometimes it won't. When the evidence is not there, we should be honest with ourselves, and admit that we don't know.

Yes when it comes to the POWER OF NOW...not everybody may agree or resonate with it. I got it when i asked answers from life. And since i was in a state to receive i answers..i could grasp it very well. However others who are not in that state of mind may not feel that resonance.

Do you think some supernatural force brought you the Power of Now, or are you just saying that you wanted answers so you bought a book?

There is another book, called 'Dianetics: the Modern Science of Mental Health'. Many people who end up joining Scientology start by reading Dianetics. (Dianetics and Scientology are very closely linked.) People say how exciting it was to read the book, how they could hardly put it down. Even people who have left Scientology, and feel it is a con, remember the excitement generated when they read Dianetics. I wasn't interested in Scientology but I was certainly interested to know why the book was so gripping, so I read it myself. It must be one of the most boring books I've ever read. Having said that, it makes some bold claims. If you need answers badly enough, perhaps you convince yourself that those claims are true, and then the book really would be exciting. The prose would be dull, but the implications of the book would be enormous, so it would be well worth any struggles you have with the text.

However to understand this entire thing may require a highly open mind.

So if I end up disagreeing with you, it will just be because I'm closed-minded, and not because I have good reasons. :D

Suppose I was talking to an evangelical Christian group. I might point out an inconsistency in the Bible, which should be a big problem for a group that interprets the Bible literally. They need a way of dismissing the problem, for the sake of their own faith. One popular trick is to assume that someone doesn't want to become a Christian because that would force him to give up some sins he is hooked on. The thought process becomes subtly diverted; instead of focusing on the evidence for Christianity, it focuses on the moral character of the person who raises objections.

Someone who is spiritually sophisticated has nothing to fear from other viewpoints. In fact, he probably changes his mind quite often, after listening to other people's arguments and opinions. He doesn't have to think of reasons for not listening (the person is too immoral, too closed-minded, or whatever) because he's happy to change his mind if someone makes a good case.

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Postby BINNOY » Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:24 pm

hey pete.....i have a doubt in my mind?
I would be glad if you answer it with patience.
I think you have a scientific and a rational mind and only you can understand what i mean to say.
However please donot take it personally.

The question is "DOES YOUR MOTHER LOVE YOU
AND
"DO YOU LOVE YOUR MOTHER?"

Actually i am an orphan. I donot have a mother and father. I see others speaking about their mothers and mothers speaking about their children. However i donot agree with them both. From where i see....there is nothing called as love. I dont have a mother ,agreed and so i have never experienced that love ...i agree. But then....why should i believe in this entire concept of love. I dont think so there is anything as love....you know mothers love ...fathers love ....girlfriend...boyfriend.. husband wife and so on. I feel people use each other for sex and thats the reason they marry. I dont think mothers love their children and so do children .

You know i see so many mothers beating up their children for no reason....they do this under the pretext of saying that i love you and so i am beating you for your good.
WHAT BULLSHIT?
Does anybody who loves someone beat him?
If there was anything called as love...what is the scientific evidence to it?
Till now science hasnt been able to find out which is the organ of the body or where exactly is love. Then why should i believe? I want to be a scientist. I believe in science and scientist and if they cant prove it ...if there is no scientific evidence to love...i think it is just non-sensical.

WHERE IS LOVE...THE BRAIN...THE HEART...THE CHEST...THE LIVER....WHERE?

Till now i have heard people saying big-big things about love . However i feel love is nothing. There is just something called as PLEASURE OF SENSES. People date around with each other FOR PLEASURE OF SENSES. Mothers and Fathers boss around children for PLEASURE OF SENSES. I guess people get some pleasure when they can make a child do as per their wish. They boss around them because atleast they now have someone to boss around with. There is nothing called as LOVE in this world . What do you say PETE? I guess you too are a smart guy...i mean if there is no scientific evidence to it. If scientific instruments cannot prove its there ....we both have no reason to believe in it. . I want this world to open their eyes and realize that there is no love. It is just some kind of hypnotism which can be achieved by any drugs,alcohol and so on.
I think soon there can be a machine which would be able to generate the same effect in the body as Love.
What do you say Pete? I am sure that you are smart enough to understand that there was nothing called as love between you and your mother and your father or your first high school/junior college crush right.
Love is just a fiction for poets right? Why should i believe in it? If there is something why havent i experienced it? I have never been in love...never went that close to anybody....but i dont believe in lOVE.....LOVE DOES NOT EXIST....I CAN WRITE IT ON ANY WALL ON THIS PLANET....IF THERE IS ....SOMEONE GIVE ME A PROOF FOR IT.

IF I DONOT EXPERIENCE IT...I DONOT AGREE TO IT....SO WHAT IF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SHARING THEIR EXPERIENCES OF HAVING THAT DEPTH OF LOVE AND HEART BREAKS AND SO ON. I think all those people are full of nuts.

You are righ PETE....I think i should resign from spirtiuality and this forum and so on.
The same way i think the world also should resign from the idea of true love....things deeper than profit and loss and so on. We all should believe in things only which can be proved in front of people.

Thanks man...i have learnt a great deal by talking to you. You know in my childhood...when i used to see other children with their mothers...i used to ask God....what wrong have i done that i am so alone. Why was i deprived of Mothers love? Whenever a mother used to kiss her child....i used to be filled with tears almost...with my heart heavy. Also i had no father to come and buy me an ice-cream.
However now i know there is nothing of this sort. I guess a child is just a Toy in the hands of parents. They are nice to it as long as they feel it and afterwards they can boss around with it anytime they want.
This world is actually a selfish world. People just use each other for their own pleasure.

I am leaving all this spirituality business and the quest for love and stop seeking love and all such things. These all are just words PETE right?

I would be waiting for your answer PETE. I am sure that there is nothing called as love. Just wanted your confirmation. However if you happen to advocate love and say that yes...there is something called as love.....could you please send me any one ....evidence to it please...backed by a scientific reason ofcourse not to mention.

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Ok i am sorry...i have this stupid habit of signing with love always...however after your answer...i promise...i wont use it again. This may be my last posted ending with a signature...with love always.
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Re: JIM CARREY AWAKENS AND INTRODUCES ECKHART TOLLE

Postby Pete » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:42 pm

Hi Binnoy,

I'm sorry you had such a difficult time as a child, and I hope you had some family around you, even if your actual parents weren't.

I will give you a very simple answer to your question: I don't know. :D

I do agree that there is some part of us which can experience emotions. You could imagine a robot that looked like a person, and behaved like a person, while not actually feeling anything. It would have the outward characteristics of a person, but not the inner characteristics.

You have to ask what makes us feel. You also have to ask why it hurts me when I put my finger in hot water, but it doesn't hurt me when you do the same thing. I might be sympathetic, and imagine what you're going through, but that's as far as it goes. As I said, I can give a very simple answer to these questions: I don't know.

That doesn't of course mean that I'm going to jump at the first explanation that comes along. There are a variety of possibilities and at the moment there is no reason to prefer one to another.

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